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	<title>Comments on: Trouble with HP Laptops&#8217; Wireless Broadcom Cards</title>
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		<title>By: Corinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be that there is no relation between cause and effect, though.</description>
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		<title>By: Corinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to have found a solution for the disappearing Broadcom connection on my HP Pavilion notebook PC (touch wood!). The last time the connection worked, I set a restore point. When the connection once more had disappeared, I restored the PC to that point. Ever since, the connection works, even after BSODs or reboots. Have no idea why!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to have found a solution for the disappearing Broadcom connection on my HP Pavilion notebook PC (touch wood!). The last time the connection worked, I set a restore point. When the connection once more had disappeared, I restored the PC to that point. Ever since, the connection works, even after BSODs or reboots. Have no idea why!</p>
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		<title>By: Commie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raymond, how hot does the machine get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raymond, how hot does the machine get?</p>
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		<title>By: raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a problem with my hp pavillion dv2000 artist edition,, 

the remote control is not functioning even i try to install the update for broadcom bluetooth remote control..

another problem im experiencing is that the too slow startup when im turning on my notebook pc,
i have updated my nvidia gforce 8400gs but the problem still unsolved.. please help me. thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a problem with my hp pavillion dv2000 artist edition,, </p>
<p>the remote control is not functioning even i try to install the update for broadcom bluetooth remote control..</p>
<p>another problem im experiencing is that the too slow startup when im turning on my notebook pc,<br />
i have updated my nvidia gforce 8400gs but the problem still unsolved.. please help me. thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this machine and can't live without it but,,,, this broadcom thing is making me postal....
I got my dv6000 in March 2007,,, Best Buy,,,, 3 year warranty..... 
March 2008,,, no broadcom. Had the mother board replaced (free)... 
March 2009,,, no broadcom. Had the motherboard replaced (free)... 
July 2009,,, no broadcom. This time I had to pay because they said it was a software problem,,, a Trojan..... BULLSHIT!!!!!!! 
December 2009,,,, no broadcom.... I have literally tried EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The broadcom works but only when it wants to.... 
I have been researching the Federal and Pennsylvania Lemon Laws. It seem that when you buy something,,,, there is an implied contract. You pay 100% of the purchase price,,,, the product should work 100% of the time...  I'm going to contact one of those,,, "We get money for you" lawyers... Wish me luck.... It may be helpful to the rest of you guys..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this machine and can&#8217;t live without it but,,,, this broadcom thing is making me postal&#8230;.<br />
I got my dv6000 in March 2007,,, Best Buy,,,, 3 year warranty&#8230;..<br />
March 2008,,, no broadcom. Had the mother board replaced (free)&#8230;<br />
March 2009,,, no broadcom. Had the motherboard replaced (free)&#8230;<br />
July 2009,,, no broadcom. This time I had to pay because they said it was a software problem,,, a Trojan&#8230;.. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!<br />
December 2009,,,, no broadcom&#8230;. I have literally tried EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The broadcom works but only when it wants to&#8230;.<br />
I have been researching the Federal and Pennsylvania Lemon Laws. It seem that when you buy something,,,, there is an implied contract. You pay 100% of the purchase price,,,, the product should work 100% of the time&#8230;  I&#8217;m going to contact one of those,,, &#8220;We get money for you&#8221; lawyers&#8230; Wish me luck&#8230;. It may be helpful to the rest of you guys..</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATE HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Commie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason,

I don't know anyone who's tried re-soldering. I couldn't even get a new switch. I tried to order one from hp but they wouldn't sell it to me. I found it on their website at some point but it said on back order. Then I tried to call and order it, but they refused to sell it to me saying that wasn't the problem. That's how I got a replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anyone who&#8217;s tried re-soldering. I couldn&#8217;t even get a new switch. I tried to order one from hp but they wouldn&#8217;t sell it to me. I found it on their website at some point but it said on back order. Then I tried to call and order it, but they refused to sell it to me saying that wasn&#8217;t the problem. That&#8217;s how I got a replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys I'm from the UK &#38; want to say this is the longest thread I've ever seen. If only HP took a look at these threads to see what us customers are going through.

Just have to say I took in recently a freebie of a HP G6030EM notebook. When I looked at this site I thought why the fuck did I take it onboard. Should of ended on the scrap heap instead. I keep getting a permanent orange light from the wireless, no card is detected via device manager. I swapped my other wireless card which is the Apple Airport Extreme Wireless N Mimo. It detected it, installed drivers automatically &#38; guess what, it disappeared off the face of the earth. I'm thinking could this be down to a dodgy switch on the motherboard. I'm also thinking of buying a faulty laptop &#38; re-solder the switch from the faulty one to my faulty one at the moment, just to elimate process. I can't understand why this is happening because it worked ok for a while until previous owner got fed up &#38; threw it my way. Wasn't it silly of me to accept lol. 

Can I ask, has anyone tried re-soldering a new switch to the motherboard, reason it will save me alot of time messing about if someone has already done so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys I&#8217;m from the UK &amp; want to say this is the longest thread I&#8217;ve ever seen. If only HP took a look at these threads to see what us customers are going through.</p>
<p>Just have to say I took in recently a freebie of a HP G6030EM notebook. When I looked at this site I thought why the fuck did I take it onboard. Should of ended on the scrap heap instead. I keep getting a permanent orange light from the wireless, no card is detected via device manager. I swapped my other wireless card which is the Apple Airport Extreme Wireless N Mimo. It detected it, installed drivers automatically &amp; guess what, it disappeared off the face of the earth. I&#8217;m thinking could this be down to a dodgy switch on the motherboard. I&#8217;m also thinking of buying a faulty laptop &amp; re-solder the switch from the faulty one to my faulty one at the moment, just to elimate process. I can&#8217;t understand why this is happening because it worked ok for a while until previous owner got fed up &amp; threw it my way. Wasn&#8217;t it silly of me to accept lol. </p>
<p>Can I ask, has anyone tried re-soldering a new switch to the motherboard, reason it will save me alot of time messing about if someone has already done so.</p>
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		<title>By: idah</title>
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		<dc:creator>idah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am so pissed!!!!!!!!!!!. this laptop was so expensive. i have an hp pavilion tx2000. my wireless light shows its on yet it cannot detect a network at all for the past 5 days.my Wlan has just disappeared only god knows to where, any ideas on how to resolve this problem??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am so pissed!!!!!!!!!!!. this laptop was so expensive. i have an hp pavilion tx2000. my wireless light shows its on yet it cannot detect a network at all for the past 5 days.my Wlan has just disappeared only god knows to where, any ideas on how to resolve this problem??????</p>
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		<title>By: Sam DOC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam DOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solution!!! That works every time.  Heating THE GPU for dv6000 and Dv9000
I have a DV9000 with the same problem as everyone else… HP Sucks!
Triple boot system OS windows 7 XP and Ubuntu Linux 
Video graphics GeForce go 6150

As crazy as it sounds you must heat up the graphics card or GPU which is below the wireless card. Playing a game such as call to duty 4 or any game that uses the graphics card in an intensive way will do the trick.  Now what happens is that the graphics card heats up a bit and in turn also heats the wireless card, which in turn on the wireless card. I played intensive games for a while so what happens is that the amber light turns by itself to blue light.  Here are some things that you can do get back your wireless card.    Please note the solutions I present are temporary in nature but work every time you try them. They have a 90% success rate and a 10% failure rate. It’s safe but Proceed with caution do not play around.  

NOT SO FAST SOLUTION…works if you have time to kill
1.	Play a game that uses the graphics card, eventually your computer will heat up and the amber light will turn blue by itself, if the amber light does not blue then close the game and wait to see it comes by itself. This could take anywhere from 45 min to 1 hour or some times less depending on the game you play.  
Fast solution works fast at most time… Works if you need things fast …..Windows 7and  XP

2.	Download a program called FurMark version 1.7.0. It’s a free program that analyses your computer graphics to see how efficient they are under certain resolutions or enabling certain high end properties. 
3.	Install the program. 
4.	Run the program every time you don’t see the blue light of your wireless
5.	Under run mode select Stability Test then select xtreme burning mode do not select log GPU Temperature or benching. 
6.	Under standard sizes select 640x480 do not select full screen. 
7.	Leave everything else as default. 	
8.	This works for me every time place the laptop on a hard surface or table, never or your lap. Click GO!
9.	When running the program a window will come and you will see a graph displayed on your monitor this graph represents the temperature of your GPU or graphics card. The graph will show you the minimum and the maximum temperature. Allow for the maximum temperature to reach a temperature of 97 to 91 C, let it stay around those temperatures for 360 seconds or 6 minutes.  The time is display at the right of the window, the program tell you how much time you been running the program. Do not let the temperature reach 120 C this could cause damage. If you see the temperature rising to 120 C  passing 100 C close the program immediately  or end the program.  I do not recommend letting it pass more than 100 
C. You wireless card will work if you let achieve a max temperature of 97 C or 91, will not work anything below 90 C 
10.	Once the program closes the amber light will turn instantly to blue light and you will get the wireless back. If this is not the case then turn off the system and turn back on normally immediately and you should see that it worked.  If it fails try again to run the program, for me out of 10 tries 1 will fail.  Please note the temperature at which the wireless comes back is by allowing the temperature to be between 91C and 97C, This temperature can be maintain constant when running the program by allowing the exit air of the fan to be freely, by this I mean place the laptop on top of a book and allow for the exit vents to be expose to cooler room temperature, you will see this in the graph.   
11.	I have noticed that after running this program for many times,  sometimes the blue light will come back every now and then without  actually running the program.  Also I noticed that if you adjust the computer brightness to low and select the saver power plan and without connecting the AC the blue light and turn the computer on, the wireless will come every now and then. 
   Worked under windows 7 no software needed….Works equally as well. 
1.	Click start or windows logo
2.	Set your mouse on computer then do a right click and then select properties
3.	Click windows experience index
4.	Click run the assessment or click re run the assessment 
5.	The index assessment will do the same as the program above it will test your graphics thus causing a heating of the GPU and hopefully enabling the wireless. 
6.	If it fails try to run again the assessment.
Please note that this is temporary, because if you are able to get the blue light, and if you happen to restart or set the computer to hibernate or sleep the light will turn amber.  But performing the steps above will get the wireless to work again forever as long as you don’t turn off computer or restart or hibernate or sleep. 
These are just some things I have done in order for the wireless card to come back again and so far it works every time, my computer is just great when the wireless works, it becomes a complete computer, of course it is a lot easier to buy a USB wireless adapter, which I did, but sometimes people don’t want to waste more or it is very inconvenient.  Give it a try and share your experiences. 
•	In theory it may be possible for one to actually open the computer and somehow incorporating a copper penny in the GPU, thus allowing for the GPU to reach the desirable temperature at which the wireless card turns back on forever, further research or knowledge is needed to see if this can help and will not harm the computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solution!!! That works every time.  Heating THE GPU for dv6000 and Dv9000<br />
I have a DV9000 with the same problem as everyone else… HP Sucks!<br />
Triple boot system OS windows 7 XP and Ubuntu Linux<br />
Video graphics GeForce go 6150</p>
<p>As crazy as it sounds you must heat up the graphics card or GPU which is below the wireless card. Playing a game such as call to duty 4 or any game that uses the graphics card in an intensive way will do the trick.  Now what happens is that the graphics card heats up a bit and in turn also heats the wireless card, which in turn on the wireless card. I played intensive games for a while so what happens is that the amber light turns by itself to blue light.  Here are some things that you can do get back your wireless card.    Please note the solutions I present are temporary in nature but work every time you try them. They have a 90% success rate and a 10% failure rate. It’s safe but Proceed with caution do not play around.  </p>
<p>NOT SO FAST SOLUTION…works if you have time to kill<br />
1.	Play a game that uses the graphics card, eventually your computer will heat up and the amber light will turn blue by itself, if the amber light does not blue then close the game and wait to see it comes by itself. This could take anywhere from 45 min to 1 hour or some times less depending on the game you play.<br />
Fast solution works fast at most time… Works if you need things fast …..Windows 7and  XP</p>
<p>2.	Download a program called FurMark version 1.7.0. It’s a free program that analyses your computer graphics to see how efficient they are under certain resolutions or enabling certain high end properties.<br />
3.	Install the program.<br />
4.	Run the program every time you don’t see the blue light of your wireless<br />
5.	Under run mode select Stability Test then select xtreme burning mode do not select log GPU Temperature or benching.<br />
6.	Under standard sizes select 640&#215;480 do not select full screen.<br />
7.	Leave everything else as default.<br />
8.	This works for me every time place the laptop on a hard surface or table, never or your lap. Click GO!<br />
9.	When running the program a window will come and you will see a graph displayed on your monitor this graph represents the temperature of your GPU or graphics card. The graph will show you the minimum and the maximum temperature. Allow for the maximum temperature to reach a temperature of 97 to 91 C, let it stay around those temperatures for 360 seconds or 6 minutes.  The time is display at the right of the window, the program tell you how much time you been running the program. Do not let the temperature reach 120 C this could cause damage. If you see the temperature rising to 120 C  passing 100 C close the program immediately  or end the program.  I do not recommend letting it pass more than 100<br />
C. You wireless card will work if you let achieve a max temperature of 97 C or 91, will not work anything below 90 C<br />
10.	Once the program closes the amber light will turn instantly to blue light and you will get the wireless back. If this is not the case then turn off the system and turn back on normally immediately and you should see that it worked.  If it fails try again to run the program, for me out of 10 tries 1 will fail.  Please note the temperature at which the wireless comes back is by allowing the temperature to be between 91C and 97C, This temperature can be maintain constant when running the program by allowing the exit air of the fan to be freely, by this I mean place the laptop on top of a book and allow for the exit vents to be expose to cooler room temperature, you will see this in the graph.<br />
11.	I have noticed that after running this program for many times,  sometimes the blue light will come back every now and then without  actually running the program.  Also I noticed that if you adjust the computer brightness to low and select the saver power plan and without connecting the AC the blue light and turn the computer on, the wireless will come every now and then.<br />
   Worked under windows 7 no software needed….Works equally as well.<br />
1.	Click start or windows logo<br />
2.	Set your mouse on computer then do a right click and then select properties<br />
3.	Click windows experience index<br />
4.	Click run the assessment or click re run the assessment<br />
5.	The index assessment will do the same as the program above it will test your graphics thus causing a heating of the GPU and hopefully enabling the wireless.<br />
6.	If it fails try to run again the assessment.<br />
Please note that this is temporary, because if you are able to get the blue light, and if you happen to restart or set the computer to hibernate or sleep the light will turn amber.  But performing the steps above will get the wireless to work again forever as long as you don’t turn off computer or restart or hibernate or sleep.<br />
These are just some things I have done in order for the wireless card to come back again and so far it works every time, my computer is just great when the wireless works, it becomes a complete computer, of course it is a lot easier to buy a USB wireless adapter, which I did, but sometimes people don’t want to waste more or it is very inconvenient.  Give it a try and share your experiences.<br />
•	In theory it may be possible for one to actually open the computer and somehow incorporating a copper penny in the GPU, thus allowing for the GPU to reach the desirable temperature at which the wireless card turns back on forever, further research or knowledge is needed to see if this can help and will not harm the computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not windows updates nor hp mediasmart tv are the source of the problem (wireless is disabled). I think the problem because of a failur of running or loading the device driver of the wireless device by the os (windows). that does not happen always but sometimes. So whenever the problem happen, do the following:

- restart windows vista, 7.
- when windows small round logo appears and before logon window, touch the wireless led one time. It shoukd be blue.
- After loggingon, you can enable or disable the wireless device (touching the led of the wireless device) without any problem.

This is my last answer

Ahmed Harkan from Saudi Arabia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not windows updates nor hp mediasmart tv are the source of the problem (wireless is disabled). I think the problem because of a failur of running or loading the device driver of the wireless device by the os (windows). that does not happen always but sometimes. So whenever the problem happen, do the following:</p>
<p>- restart windows vista, 7.<br />
- when windows small round logo appears and before logon window, touch the wireless led one time. It shoukd be blue.<br />
- After loggingon, you can enable or disable the wireless device (touching the led of the wireless device) without any problem.</p>
<p>This is my last answer</p>
<p>Ahmed Harkan from Saudi Arabia.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP Media SmartTV software Stoped working after installing avast anti-virus. I tried to update the HP Media SmartTv and after that, HP Media SmartTV worked ok. Updating Windows Vist occured by the OS. after that i noticed the wireless wan not working.

so either HP SmartTV update or Windows Vista update is the source of the problem. I made a system recovery, disabled windows update, found the wireless was ok, uninstalled Media SmartTV, insatlled avast. until now, everything is ok.

I found this :

Hey thank you!  I ended up having to chat with one of the HP advisors (Sebastian you rock!)  I found the wireless button, but when I pressed it the wireless status went from "disabled" to "off" with no ON!  Turns out I had to restore the default setting on the computer to get it to turn back on--just press f10 as the notebook is booting up (so before the desktop is loaded after you restart) and then press f9 and then YES to restore default settings.  Boy was that frustrating!  Simple fix though so I hope anyone else with the same problem reads this!
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I hobe I've given you somethig usefull

Ahmed Harkan from Saudi Arabia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP Media SmartTV software Stoped working after installing avast anti-virus. I tried to update the HP Media SmartTv and after that, HP Media SmartTV worked ok. Updating Windows Vist occured by the OS. after that i noticed the wireless wan not working.</p>
<p>so either HP SmartTV update or Windows Vista update is the source of the problem. I made a system recovery, disabled windows update, found the wireless was ok, uninstalled Media SmartTV, insatlled avast. until now, everything is ok.</p>
<p>I found this :</p>
<p>Hey thank you!  I ended up having to chat with one of the HP advisors (Sebastian you rock!)  I found the wireless button, but when I pressed it the wireless status went from &#8220;disabled&#8221; to &#8220;off&#8221; with no ON!  Turns out I had to restore the default setting on the computer to get it to turn back on&#8211;just press f10 as the notebook is booting up (so before the desktop is loaded after you restart) and then press f9 and then YES to restore default settings.  Boy was that frustrating!  Simple fix though so I hope anyone else with the same problem reads this!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
I hobe I&#8217;ve given you somethig usefull</p>
<p>Ahmed Harkan from Saudi Arabia.</p>
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