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Have a relative or friend who is getting deported from the US? Plan on being in the same position anytime soon? Well, here it is, for the first time, a fully documented and procedural guide to US detention and deportation. Please note that you will NOT find this information anywhere else. Half the practiced procedure during this process is NOT published anywhere under the US Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) or Immigration & Nationality Act (INA). That’s primarily because no one has taken interest in this procedure, and although there are manuals published by the House and Congress on the process of deportation and escorting illegal aliens out of the US, they are NOT followed by the monkeys at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The reason for that is that immigration law and procedure largely deals with people who are not US citizens, so the US government, house, or congress doesn’t give a flying fuck about them. Some of this is in violation of human rights, but who gives a fuck? If you’re not white and don’t hold a blue passport, you don’t deserve to be treated with dignity, do you? After all, America was formed after the murder of brown people wasn’t it? Anyway, think I’m getting off the topic here. Here’s how it works:
How it Begins
The person who homeland security wants to deport is picked up. Please keep in mind that the pick-up is made not by the USCIS or Immigration Services, but by Customs and Border Patrol, or, most likely, by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The ICE is equivalent to the right testicle of the US Department of Homeland Security for enforcement of Immigration and related unlawful DHS policy and practice. They basically do the “dirty work” for the immigration fogies. So, if someone you know simply disappears off of the streets of America, or they go to see someone at the local immigration service center, or go for an Infopass appointment (http://infopass.uscis.gov/) and never turn up, guess what, they’ve been arrested. Please note that ICE is present at all Immigration Service Centers for this very reason: the arrest of those people they consider illegal. Whether they are OR not is neither their business nor that of the USCIS. A US court has to decide that, and good luck getting there. Not many people that chance; so America’s advertising about a free country is basically full of shit in this department.
So, how do you find out if someone has been picked up? Visit the local immigration office, and ask them where they hold immigration detainees. You’ll get a couple of printed pages from http://www.mapquest.com directions on them, which will be addresses of the “facilities” or jails that people are taken to when detained. Call them, ask for your party’s name, and you’ll know if they are there or not. Now, you can’t speak to the person who has been arrested. THEY need to call you; then you call back and set up a collect call system that costs you both your arms and a leg, and then the arrested person call you from inside the jail.
So now they’re in, and you’re contacting attorneys, and your friend is trying to extract information from the people who arrested him; what the hell is going on? Read on…
After the Arrest
Now is when the false assurances start. First of, ICE Officers will hardly ever talk to you or an Immigration Attorney. They think you’re the scum of the earth because you’re not white enough for them, and your attorney is equally pathetic because he/she is defending you. So, they will not give you any information. They may, however, give the arrested some false information about when he’ll be deported, but they will never actually tell you when, where, or how, because it’s supposed to be a ‘security risk.’ Yes, the small penis’ of the ICE Officers are at stake; they need to make the most of their petty 2 cents worth lives and they make everything sound like it’s top secret information that could change the course of the earth.
Typically, the ICE can hold a deportee for about 3 months before they’ll need special permission from other authorities to further hold the person, and because that special permission requires paperwork (which the dickheads are too fucking incompetent to do) and may establish that the ICE has ILLEGALLY or UNLAWFULLY arrested someone (this is very common), they will typically deport your arrested friend or relative within those 90 days.
If he/she has a committed a crime, the 90 day period will begin after they have done jail time for their crime. They will then be moved to a federal deportee detention facility. You can find a list of detention facilities and related information here:
http://www.ice.gov/pi/dro/facilities.htm.
If you believe an ICE Officer has arrested you by mistake, there’s really nothing you can about it. If you had a stay issued by a Court, you can file for a contempt of court. Also, you can file a Habeas Corpus with the court to request that the ICE officer be questioned and you be released. However, it seems like the system is rigged; ICE apparently feeds enough money to US Department of Justice (USDOJ) to where they don’t entertain such applications or cannot take action on them within 90 days, and that basically renders them useless. What you can do, however, is file a civil suit and get the media involved. That’s the only thing that scares the US government, and typically, this is more than an ICE Officer can handle, and somewhere somebody will always pay for fucking up. However, this is not something everyone can do as it may require some serious cash and persistence, and a lot of courage. After all, a lot of people unnecessarily tremble in the name of US Homeland Security.
The Deportation Process
This, in itself, is a big mess. There’s no set procedure or way. Typically, here’s the rule: If there’s a direct flight to your country of passport from anywhere in the US, you will be flown on either a US government plane or escorted on a commercial flight to the major international airport that such a flight will fly out of. From this airport, you will be put on a commercial flight ‘home.’ They will hand the passport over to the pilot or airline staff, and they will hand it over to you when you land or are on the plane, unless you’re from a really crooked country where these people are looking to make a quick buck off of you.
Now, according to the guide for escorting, information on which can be found on the USDOJ site at http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/INS/e0105/index.htm, if no one if the deportee in question has not committed a crime, he/she does not need an escort. But somehow it turns out that homeland security has a very hard time complying with this manual or guide, and so, the rule is typically ignored.
Now, I’m not sure if this is how it’s done in other countries too, but I know this is how it works for the Middle East and Pakistan. Most likely, the deportee will be moved to the federal detention facility in Buffalo, NY, from where the ICE charters a plane belonging to any airline, and flies in a 24 hour plus flight to three or four countries, dropping the deportees off. The idea is to hand them over to local authorities, but most local authorities could give a fuck less about what the ICE wants them to do. In fact, there have been reports of ICE and Homeland Security Officers getting into trouble upon arrival in the Pakistan without having an invitation; something to be proud of.
The Return to the Passport Country
Once your deportee lands in Pakistan, he’ll be uncuffed and brought into the airport. The problem here is that the US flight is so secretive, that they don’t even inform the local authorities of the arrival of a deportee plane, with the result that the local authorities are not prepared. The only people who may have a clue about the flight is the air traffic control room staff, and they typically don’t communicate the information with the FIA (in Pakistan) or the FBI equivalent of the country the deportees are landing.
The result: deportees are hung up at the airport for a couple of hours for filling out a survey form after which they are let go. For Pakistan, the flight usually lands in Islamabad. For all other countries, it typically lands in the capital city. The last deportee flight that few from NY and ended in Pakistan flew on Tuesday, March 6, with a stop in Jordan, after which it carried to Islamabad, Pakistan.
Conclusion
What’s the worst part about this process?
- The inhumane treatment of deportees, some of whom may be highly educated officials who are simply put behind bars for making a solid, legitimate case against the USCIS or ICE but have the wrong skin color.
- The lack of information and pathetic secrecy issues.
- The hiding of ICE officers from lawyers and other genuine people for fucking up; talk about being American, don’t face your mistakes or stand up for what you do. Way to go Dick in Bush!
- The lack of implementation of legislature and the cowardice of judiciary in front of ICE.
- Thousands of human rights violations.
- The incompetence of American Citizens in realizing that there are such atrocities going on inside their own country, and
- The fact that no one is willing to do anything about it because the mistreated don’t hold American Passports.
What can we say? What goes around comes around. Stay away and don’t get involved. This is one of the several ways the US is shooting herself in her own foot, and what happens when you do that? You only need to be told if you have never stepped outside the US.
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March 18th, 2007 at 4:05 am
I’m sorry for whatever has happened/is happening! I wish and pray to God you get out of this mess ASAP and realize no america or any place else is better than home!
May 15th, 2007 at 1:51 am
I came to this page by search engine. I think what you say is so true. This immigration law shit is all fucked up. I have a brother that commited a felony and now in the process of being deported. He was due for a release in April of 2006 and till this date is still waiting for an INS hearing. Is there anything that could be done to quicken the process? Thank you.
May 15th, 2007 at 10:20 am
Mari,
The truth is that I really haven’t read much on new Law to know which states what I’m going to tell you, but this is either stated in an updated section of the Immigration & Nationality Act or it’s stated somewhere in the massive CFR 8. I’ve read both in the past, and what is implied in either one or the other is that if a foreign national who is present in the US on a pending immigrant status, a felony entitles him to his legal sentence for the felony and deportation. If he is present on a non-US Immigrant status, he is liable to receive the same treatment, i.e., punishment for his crime and deportation.
Unless you have a green card, they won’t deport you for a felony, unless they really consider you a misfit for society. The most important part here is that law or regulation is not followed; you are totally at the hands of the ICE.
The reason your brother is waiting for an INS hearing is that even after a felony or crime is committed by someone, ICE or CBP CANNOT deport anyone unless and until a judge issues any such orders. They can, however, hold anyone indefnitely thanks to the patriot act and other such psychotic, high-school, low IQ horse shit passed by the Congress & Senate. So, if your brother’s felony sentence was up in April, 2006, they’ll hold him until they can get an immigration judge to find him deportable, and THEN he’s spending ninety days at a federal or state detention facility until they escort him to his country of passport. The reason getting an immigration judge takes long is because his allotted deportation officer doesn’t really give a fuck. They just file the paperwork and no one ever calls on it or pursues it. Also, the Department of Justice takes such applications less serious than others because the people are already in custody (they never realize that holding them and feeding them costs these dick heads money), and there’s no money or application fees involved in their proceedings as there are for those who apply for court hearings and other immigration proceedings.
All you can do is get his Alien # or something and get the lawyer to find a contact in the district court to see where his application is at, and make sure that the ICE has actually sent an application to the court for a hearing by getting a lawyer to talk to the deportation officer. Unless you’re a US national, I wouldn’t go talk to them myself. Under George Bush, ICE officers behave like super dicks, you know what I mean! Rest assured, once he gets a court hearing, and the judge doesn’t issue any unusual orders, he will be held for 90 days more, because that’s what they like to do. Holding them any longer requires further permission from a district judge before the 90 days are up, so I’ve hard ever seen that happen.
What state did they arrest him in? And what state had his immigration petition, if one at all, had been filed? And which is the country of deportation? Depending on your state, things can go faster or slower. However, if you’re in NY or TX, they have some serious backlog.
August 24th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
sounds like what happend to my babies father. He was aloud in th usa and they told him he would get his paper work here! well he is young and does not speak english and they lyed to him he never got a thing and his brother got picked up for dwi and they took him to buffalo imm. They gave him a court date and everythng but told him it would look better is he just left on his own so he did but now we are trying to get him back over here to live but we do not have his a number becasue all the paper work got ruined when they had a huracne hit in mexico a few years back
August 24th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
Sorry to hear that. Immigration has taken a rather disturbing turn in America. The biggest issue is that ICE Officers have started to lie to meet arrest budgets. They’ll tell you it’s okay you should come see them to sort things out, and kaboom, you go there just to get arrested, and the prick gets a promotion and a raise. Worst of all, some of these officers have such low IQ that they get the wrong people half the time, and there’s no ramification.
I hope you get to sort the issue out. If you’re a US national, which it sounds like you are, try visiting the local INS field office and get his Alien Number. They track everyone by last name too. If he actually got deported though, under US law, he can’t re-enter for 10 years. Of course, a good lawyer can always get that changed. A good litigation lawyer, not immigration. Immigration lawyers in America are typically worthless. They don’t work on merit, but on their relationship with the local USCIS officers.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:34 pm
well now i really got to do something end up having a 29 weeker baby so we got to get daddy here asap becasue i cannot take care of everything at this time with me going to the hospital everyday and with the baby having an operation i just cannot deal with everything by myself and with the babies being only 10 months appart i need dads help and he is going nuts with everything that is going on becasue he cannot be here it is so wrong if they have family here i say let them in and let them be becasue it just breaks up familys
September 29th, 2007 at 11:05 am
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January 11th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Hello,
What you have posted is sooooo true, my brother was sentenced for 12 months in federal prision poor guy already completed his sentence time about 2 months ago now he’s waiting in INS facility in TX. These people don’t give a shit about anything like they don’t have families of their own.
They keep telling him 2 weeks more 2 weeks more, it has been like a month and a half and they still haven’t deported him. We are soooo worried we don’t know what to do, I call the deportation officer all the time, he never picks up his phone, i leave him messages to get status on my bro’s case he never calls back. I have also been in touch with the Pakistani consulate in Houston to see if they can help in expediting the process but they have been no help as well. Eveytime I call them they tell me oh we are trying our best but there hasn’t been any progress blah blah blah. Are they any help do u think??
We are just soo helpless, we don’t know when they are gonna deport my brother. Plus my bro has never even gone back to Pak we are just sooo scared about it. How do they treat people at the Pakistani airport?? I heard they give you hard time and ask for money, treat you bad etc is that true???
Last plane was suppose to leave on Jan 3rd and for some reason it got suspended, i don’t even know if they tell you the truth. Do they even tell you when, and what time the plane will land? If so how long in advance will they let us know?
My family wants to get their tickets to pak too so they can pick him up at the airport, cuz we really don’t have any relatives in pak.
Please reply back soon.
Thanks!!
January 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Hi Saima,
Sorry to hear what you’re going through. Here’s your first shocker; the Pakistani Consulate is absolutely worthless. Any country you go to, any Pakistani you meet here is most likely going to become a burden and liability rather than become helpful or useful; in fact, alerting them could mean creating problems for yourself. Frankly, they really don’t care, so don’t bother with them.
Your only bet, really, is to be patient. There are hundreds of Pakistanis in immigration facilities for a no good reason. But here is what I can tell you; if he has completed his sentence in federal prison, they CANNOT keep him at an immigration facility for more than 90 days without the permission of a disctrict court. The district court will sit in Houston or Dallas, depending on where he was, and most likely, given the low level of competence of US immigration officers, they’re afraid of going to a judge to get an extension, although they are spiteful enough to keep almost all of them in texas behind bars for the 90 days. I assume he is at Haskell.
Now, here’s what happens when he will get sent back to Pakistan. Typically, they’ll send him along with a bunch of other Pakis. IF they’re sending him back alone, he’ll go on a regular PIA flight to Pakistan, and he will land as a normal passenger, since an ICE agent will only accompany him to London or Manchester, which means as long he has a pakistani passport, no one at a Paki airport will bother saying anything. If he goes on a charetered plane with deportees (which is more likely), they’ll first take him to Buffalo, NY, which has one of the largest detention facilities. He’ll stay there for a couple of days, and from there they’ll put him on a chartered flight to Pakistan. Here’s what you need to make sure you tell him or get him:
1. Some money.
2. The whole flight will be handcuffed, so be patient; it can be a painful journey, especially since they make stops in Jordan, Oman etc. etc. on their way to Pakistan.
Now, typically, US immigration does NOT inform Pakistan of a flight of deportees until about 20 minutes before they are landing. This is because Paki officials are so bad they take US officials hold ICE Officers for getting some US Dollars outta them. That said, typically, the FIA Immigration Cell does not have enough time to stop every passenger to hold them for interrogation. If, however, they do, and there’s any notice or evidence they have of him having been sentenced to 12 months for any crime, they could really bother him. Most likely, though, hoping for the best (might I add you shuldn’t in matters of Pakistan), he’ll just fill out a piece of paper, be dazzled at how they’ll ask him to make a potocopy without their being a machine anywhere, and then let him go. They could create problems too.
If you know someone in the FIA or Customs at the Airports, it helps. Chartered flights usually go to Islamabad. You can get your ‘friend’ in the department to stand with him when he talks to the immigration officials, and then walk him around to bring him out to skip any of the bullshit they can give you at the airport. Islamabad is better than the rest of Pakistan, but the country is still a dumphole and FULL of cons, robbers, and cheats. But Isb is good, it’s getting used to Pakistan that he may have to worry about it.
I’ll send this back to you in an email too. Let me know if I can answer any more questions. I would have volunteered to help out if I was in Pakistan, but i’m sorry that I’m not. But the procedure I have mentioned takes place just like that because one of my family member’s came back on a deportee chartered flight from haskell, and my a couple of my friends have arrived on PIA flights too.
Best of luck, and welcome to the dark side of the United States.
March 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Salaam Alaikum Asif,
Your info is very true and to the point. I was deport back to Afghanistan in 2005 after doing 10 yrs in prison. I was 10 yrs Old when we moved to US in 87. I have no One in Afghanistan, I was 5 yrs old when I left my country because of War, and moved to Pakistan and a few yrs later to US. I have all my family members in America. My wife is an American Citizen as is my 2 year old son. It has been very difficult for my family. I have been band for 20 yrs. Is there any way that I can bring the band period down to 5-10 yrs and get back to US? I had wavered my rights and asked to be deported because after doin 10 yrs in prison I did not wanted to do any more time.
My codefended was not deported when he come prison for the same crime.
March 2nd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Wassalam Hamid,
Why/how did you get arrested? Was it for a crime or was it for overstaying a visa or asylum application?
I’m very sorry to hear what has happened; ultimately, they want you to waive your rights, or they’ll keep you in there till you’re no more a human being.
Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do about the banned period. But who told you it is 20 years, unless you waived your rights and they deported you under a different conidtion? How much time did you spend in a criminal facility/capacity and how much under immigration? Under the law, deportees are not allowed to re-enter for 10 years.
Second question, even before you can ask for a reduction of the blacklist period, is what was the crime? The severity can play a very important part. Good news is, unless it was a serious felony or something of the sort, you can try a different country in Europe, where your wife and son could join you.
US, probably not. I know people with clean records and no crimes who don’t have a chance.
March 17th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Assalamu-Alaikum,
I truely appreciate your response and assistance regards this matter. I served 10 years in prison for three counts of felony. I was deported for one count, abduction. the three counts were, arm robbery, burglary, and abduction. at the time of the crime I was 17 years of age. I stayed out on bond for a year and I was sentenced in 1995. In 2005 I was released and handed over to immigration. I stayed less then 3 months and was deported for abduction. they took my finger prints and eye scan because of the new biodata technology. I woud like to go to Canada, is there any restrictions on someone like me who has been deported from the states to go to Canada? does American and Canada share criminal BioData? in other words when I get finger printed for visa reasons, will my record be displayed in the canadian immigration system? Jazakullah Khairun
March 24th, 2008 at 2:31 am
Hi,
Just wanted to post about ICE’s new trick for catching illegals. This does not seem to be posted anywhere else. They are now checking every singe bus and train on the way to Buffalo, NY, where a lot of people are going to try to get documents to come to Canada. This is done in both Erie, PA and Rochester, NY. Mind you they check documents of everyone who’s on the bus/train regardless of citizenship. How’s that for freedom of movement?
Unfortunately we found out the hard way. My mother-in-law was detained and is now facing deportation with no possibility of bail or parole. She’s 54 yo, and never hurt a fly in her life, much less have a criminal record. But as we found out, if you have an outstanding order of deportation you fall under the same category regardelss if you got that order because of a crime you comitted, or just because the appeal for your asylum case was thrown out without even being considered. They also don’t care that you were trying to leave on your own by getting documents to come to Canada. They will catch you, and then deport you because they have quotas to meet.
So if you or anyone you know is trying to go to Canadian consulate in Buffalo by bus or train BEWARE, they will catch you and detain you if you have ANY problem with your status in the US.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:48 am
Thanks for sharing. It is sad that the ICE operates like a corporation, with goal being the meeting of quotas. It is activity like this in all sects of life that is today causing the economic crisis in the United States.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Salam,
I have a question about my brother. He is orginally from afghanistan.HE was 5 years old when he left afghanistan because of the fighting to pakistan. When he was in the US he got sentenced to jail for 5 years.His time is almost over and he is waiting for immigration so he can get picked up. The judge has seen him and since he will be in danger in Afghanistan the judge has ordered him to be removed to pakistan. Since he is not from pakistan and don’t know what is going to happen.So if you have any information about this procedure and how the pakistan government will treat him or what will happen
May 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Qadir,
What passport will he be travelling on? On a legal basis, how can he even get into Pakistan at an airport without having a Pakistani Passport or visa? On the border there may be ways to work it, but at the airport there really aren’t any other than bribing and arranging for a visa, and the former may not work too well depending on which airport he lands at. You’ll have to come up with more information so I can at least give you a reasonable answer. Feel free to email me.
May 14th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
salam,
thank you for your help. Right now i am not sure which passport he will be traveling on because he is from afghanistan and the immigration judge has not responded yet. once i get more information i will like to email you about this
May 30th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Asif….This was a very real account on how ICE operates, unfortunately I got to experience it first hand. I graduated with a degree in journalism, and moved to SF for a job on an EAD, unfortunately my H-1B never got approved but I continued to work. On a recent visit to Syracuse to attend my brother’s graduation, I got detained at the airport (from my valid Indian passport), reported to Border Patrol and got arrested. I saw my life fall apart before my very eyes, and I saw how the ICE officials treat you because you are off a different color. At the immigration court in Buffalo, NY, no one knew anything about me, my lawyer was a huge joke, and the opposing lawyer had all wrong information about me. To them you are just an A number, not a human being. Forget that I paid almost $100,000 for an education here, got a job and paid my taxes, have no criminal history, yet they treat you like a criminal because like you said “you are not white enough”. They put you in a county jail with druggies, and baby rapists when your only crime was that you came here for an education and for a better life. I paid my way through school, the govt. gave me nothing. I was one of the lucky one to get bonded out after 5 days by my family in CA and we have now hired a lawyer to help me with this case. I think we have a good strategy but you never know. My heart really does go out to those who have been imprisoned for months/years, with no aid in sight. I mean seriously, they have child molesters, rapists on the streets who have their citizenships to help them, when the only crime these immigrants commit is that they want to create a better life for themselves and their kids through hard work and education. Something is seriously wrong here!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Sapna,
I’m sorry to hear about what happened to you. Unfortunately, the system was never meant to be right or fair; nobody cares about fair. As with most western countries, rights are associated with ethnicity, skin colour, passport and the financial depth of your pockets.
July 6th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
hello asifbhai,
thanks for the in-depth procedure that u posted.
here is my case.
i am a convicted felon as i was inolved in a fraud of more than 10000$.
my sentencing is soon and will get time served.
so after that suppose ice picks me up and i am ready to sign all the rights off…no hearing…i want to go back to india…am ready to pay for my ticket…how long do u think it will take them to place me on plane to india.i am in ny currently and the feds are holding my passport.i dont have any detainer on me and am out of jail on bail.
i am really tense because i dont want to spend extended time in the immigration detention.also would u recommend that should i get an immig.lawyer even tough i dont want to fight deportation.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
thanks and regards
July 7th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Jerry,
To the best of my knowledge, a conviction would you typically mean you do your convicted time in prison, after which they’d probably move you to an immigration detention facility, 90 days+ from thereon they would deport you.
That’s how I’ve known it to work. Immigration lawyers are wortheless in the US; they function on rapport with immigration officer rather then on procedure or law, and that’s only useful if you’re filing some kind of an application that you want to get approved.
July 7th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
hello again asifbhai,
thanks for the quick reply.
so the maximum time they can detain someone is 90 days.
but i have heard that if u dont want a hearing in front of the immig.judge they speed up the deportation process.
can u throw some light on it,please.
thanks and regards,
July 7th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
It depends. That’s the only correct answer here.
If you are illegal AND you’ve been convicted of a crime, first and foremost, you have to do the time for your conviction.
After that, there are typically two ways: You can be offered voluntary departure, or you will spend your 90 days in immigration detention, because that is how long they can hold you for immigration without a court order. Typically, within ninety days they will get a deportation order, based on which they will deport you. So whether you get a hearing or not is different, they NEED an order from an immigration judge to deport you.
Voluntary departure is typically offered to those who typically have a pending immigration case that may have been refused. The idea is to give the person being asked to leave a grace period to wrap up and leave the US, but it also sometimes extended to people at the discretion of immigration officers. The set procedure here as outlined by the DoJ and Congress is hardly ever followed, and you are basically at the mercy of the immigration officer who is incharge of your case.
How did you arrive in the US, and what was your status when you were arrested for involvement in fraud?
July 8th, 2008 at 4:12 am
hello again,
when i arrived in usa i was on h1b.when i was arrested i was in legal status.
in felony, status does not matter.they deport u weather or not u r legal or illegal.
i have done my time and am on bail.is 90 days compulsory detention.i am gonna be deported because of aggravated felony without hearing.
just wanted to know can they hold me for longer than 90 days if they dont find any plane going to india or a deportation officer to escort me to india.
ur help is of great moral support to me.
thanks
July 13th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
hi asif bhai,
just a quick question.
will i benefit if i sign “Stipulated Request for Removal and Waiver of Hearing”
it will save time on hearing or other official work.also i have heard “voluntary removal” not “voluntary deportation” also will quicken the deportation to my home country.
pls advise.
thanks
July 13th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
In theory, yes. Is that the actual name of the form you are signing.
The term I am familiar with is ‘voluntary departure’, where they basically remove you, but with your consent. For someone who is not charged and convicted in criminal proceedings, voluntary departure means they give you a specified amount of time to leave voluntarily.
In cases like yours, however, they make you sign a voluntary departure form and remove you from the country, because then they don’t need a court order of removal. They can remove you and how that you left voluntarily because you signed the papers. Only difference between this kind of voluntary and non-voluntary departure is that if you depart voluntarily (on paper), you don’t have a 10 year immigration bar to go back to the States, where as if you are deported, you have a 10 year bar.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
If anyone is deported from USA, can he/she apply for a canadian visit visa.
the have the same database, Can the canadian embassy find out if someone is deported from USA on denied immigration case or minor criminal case…I need to have the answer please
thanks and regards
August 15th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Yes, you can apply, and yes, they can find out. Chances of you getting your applcation approved: probably null.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Mr. Asif, u just remind me the whole nine yard i’ve been through, i marry to a citizen, spend almost $50,000 within lawyers to get me a legal status, have 9 yrs old daughter, i been deported last sept. 2007, it was a full flight to pakistan, out from a mess to worst, well cut the story short, reason of my dep. is my divorce me and div got finla in feb.2008, i have a piece of paper having my alien # on it, telling me ‘ 10 years ‘ band, is anything can be done legally to process back, as i have a doughter, two of my brothers are citizen and my mother is permanent resident there, i never comit a crime, paid my taxes, but do not have a work permit, my file was for pending for processing and the ice told me i have a deportation issued from the court, so is there any hope, i have no one in pakistan and living here on my savings….i been in US since 1990, pls advise
September 18th, 2008 at 4:10 am
Mr. Asif, u just remind me the whole nine yard i’ve been through, i marry to a citizen, spend almost $50,000 within lawyers to get me a legal status, have 9 yrs old daughter, i been deported last sept. 2007, it was a full flight to pakistan, out from a mess to worst, well cut the story short, reason of my dep. is my divorce me and div got finla in feb.2008, i have a piece of paper having my alien # on it, telling me ‘ 10 years ‘ band, is anything can be done legally to process back, as i have a doughter, two of my brothers are citizen and my mother is permanent resident there, i never comit a crime, paid my taxes, but do not have a work permit, my file was for pending for processing and the ice told me i have a deportation issued from the court, so is there any hope, i have no one in pakistan and living here on my savings….i been in US since 1990, pls advise
September 30th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I want to say, I’m with you on everything you have posted here. I just went through a similar thing a couple months ago. I’m half Korean, half English with a British passport. Lived in the States for 20 years (pretty much grew up there). One small blemish on my record, which I.C.E. officials tried to turn into a felony in order to deport me.
The workings of I.C.E. are despicable. They detained me at the airport on my arrival back into the States after visiting my grandparents. Needless-to-say, due to I.C.E. transferring me around in shackles, I missed two court dates with I.C.E. officials claiming they have no idea about any court dates. All they do is lie, lie and lie and beat around the bush on every question/inquiry you ask them.
I was also sent to the tent city in Brownsville. Willacy detention center. Well, the place is the worst run facility. They give you used underwear and used socks for crying out loud. The organization in the facility is ridiculous. The hired ’security’ are complete idiots, half of them didn’t even know where the United Kingdom was. Then I would tell them England, they still didn’t know, I would say London, and they still didn’t know where it was. Hell the prosecutor didn’t know where the United Kingdom was.
Needless-to-say, after I finally made it to a court hearing, I told them to fuck off and send me back to the UK, which they did. I didn’t get deported as I found a loop hole in the system. They arrested me at the border, so I was in the US, but I wasn’t really there. So I withdrew my application to enter the US, and in turn they had to send me back. I still have my Green Card as shocking as that sounds.
I paid for my own ticket; however, I had to go through I.C.E. and paid a total of $2700 for a one way ticket to the UK. I would assume the I.C.E. pocketed more than half of that ticket price, as my father looked it up on his own and the ticket price came out to roughly $1000 for a one way ticket.
As I’m a web developer, I’m going to be setting up my own website with articles and stories from others that have had to go through this process of ignorance. I would love to have your help on it, if you’re interested please email me at the email that I entered to post this reply.