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why do you have your panties in a knot desi hater?

Another Pakistani has spoken.

As for the panties and the knot. Hot girlfriend, kinky activity, and a bunch Pakis trying to get a peek…you get the drift don’t you? Or is too much for the Pakistani intellect? Oh, intellect, that’s another reason for the knot. And panties, they just feel good! .

However, I must give credit where it is due. I did enjoy the cynical twisted use of the modified idiomatic expression here.

Friend, I don’t think that you have faced real politics in your life in your country of origin. Yet, your hatred is understandable. But before unleashing such scathing (and to a certain extent ridiculous) remarks (which can hurt those who have been long worried since their adulthood and trying to work out their assses) do picture everyone. Though, I do respect your comments as I can understand from where you are coming. Now, don’t think of writing that ‘oh, you’ve got no idea, bro……….’ and blah, blah. Be strong my good pal.

Khayyam, if you’ve decided to judge me on comments I’ve made about Pakistanis, and you’ve forgotten about all the discussions we’ve had in the past, then I think your statement about me not having faced any politics in my country of origin is dumb founded. You come from a family of people who have worked in the corporate sector of Pakistan (from what you have told me), so I’m not sure you are really aware of the politics in your country. I, on the other hand, have received the rear end of this wonderful country on many a fruitful occassion, and I’m sorry, I stand by my opinion.

If your love for Pakistan was so sincere, you would not have left the country to earn money or gain career experience. Isn’t it amazing how one’s love and need for money supercedes one’s love for one’s homeland?

You are certainly entitled to calling my comments ridiculous, but that holds as much strength in my perspective of life as some self proclaiming Islamic Scholar who gives himself credibility on Islam and claims to be a speaker who understands the religion better than you or I do. I certainly respect you as a friend, but your opinion about life, Pakistanis, Islam, or any connotations you may or may not have about my experience and handshake with life is in no way superior to anyone else’s. That is the mistake all Pakistanis make in the first place. There’s no need to get offended by what I’ve said, and bare in mind you’re not doing anyone a favour by working your ass off. You’re doing it because it’s the right thing and because you want to do it, and that’s the truth whether you accept it or not. If you’re doing it by giving in to peer, social, family, or political pressure, then the weakness lies in your own ability to deal with the situation.

Please do continue to work hard, but don’t deny the fact: most Pakistanis are assholes. They do lie. They do cheat. They do NOT fear God. Their excuse for all failure in their lives is that it is a coming from God. And they think the slightest good that they do in their life is a favour for which the entire country owes them gratitude. To such Pakistanis, I present my standard “fuck off and die.” Now I know you’re not one of those, and there’s no need to stick up for someone who’s going to come stab you another day. Feeling for your country is one thing, but reacting and commenting on that feeling is another. I make that mistake too; it’s my website, sometimes it’s where I come to vent. Remember, it’s fair to feel for your country, but your consequent feeling for countrymen can be invalid. The two are different.

Now, this whole thing aside. How’s Dubai treating you? How was Egypt? I’m sorry I haven’t been in touch lately, but I am back in Pakistan now (at least for a couple of months). Let me know if you’re coming over any time soon; we should definitely get together for a bit, even if it’s for the cause of defending Pakistanis .

My dear friend, pls accept apologies if I may had unintentionally offended you; I didn’t mean that. I wrote knowing it can be an open friendly discussion (with bit of friendly cross-fire).

I do appreciate and respect your opinions. Rather, every rational human should do that ordinarily. In as far as having Corporate background or not is concerned, oh my friend, I will extent my debate on this, I can add stuff over here though. And yes, I do understand how hard it becomes to face mindless people, who academically may be learned fellows. Not to mention, there’re so many poverty driven hideous acts committed. Honestly, I’d dream to get out of that system (of living abroad), hence I may not consider myself very different from you. But at the same time, whenever and wherever possible, I would try my best to do adopt the right act.

See my friend, we just can’t blast out our people all the time and in front of everyone. Web can attract good audience. The state in which you and others (including myself) would find people like those in our developing societies is not an overnight phenomenon. It is result of certain time. Even good people, at times, change and adopt the very wrong that they would despise and denounce publicly even (I certainly hope I won’t be one of them). But many of them do in retaliatory mode. And hence, lets not becom retaliatory. We, OPs (Overseas Pakistanis) have not only duty to our families back home (applicable for many OPs) but also to the image of our country. Pakistan certainly has an image problem but that gradually became what it is know, much due to the ignorant, poverty-affected or brat citizens of our motherland. So, this makes it as our duty, of those who can and do understand the problem. Hence, we need to be bit extra careful in our public appearances and places and try our best as separate individuals, to act and behave in an ethically appropriate manner. This not only will reflect good on us but as tiny ambassadors of our country, we would be relieving our duties.

Again, I appreciated whatever you said and thanks for writing back so quickly. And hopefully, we’ll meet sometime, somewhere (wherever the Almightly may decide that to happen).

Take care my good friend and pay no heed to the kind of buggers we’ve discussed (I try doing the same always). Warm regards.

Khayyam, no offense was taken my friend. I am always open to discussion; hence the ability to post comments on this web site.

I have read your feedback and opinion, and I can’t agree more with what you say in essence. I agree that the development of developing socieities is not an overnight phenomenon. I agree that many people behave inappropriately out of frustration and would denounce the very acts they have committed publicly. But I will beg to differ on the responsibility to allott to overseas Pakistanis.

Being patriotic is a good. In fact, being patriotic is a wonderful thing; if you believe your country has something to be patriotic about. Patriotism driven out of pure sentiment equates to delusional innocence, which neither our country’s past, nor it’s current regime or population is deserving of. In fact, whether it ever has been is also up for debate. But this is not where my primary issue with your suggestion lies.

You see, my complain is that Pakistanis are not worth standing up for. If you asked me stand up for Pakistan, I may actually be convinced to do so. In fact, I think I have done more than my fair share all those years of my blessed life that I have lived outside Pakistan. I practiced good values; I dealt honestly; I worked hard and always produced positive results; I never indulged in criminal acticity of any sort, and I took excellence awards for education in foreign countries. I can’t say many of those for the majority of the Pakistani population that lives abroad. The problem is, just like you will see in the disucssion in my book (when ever I get down to finshing it), that Pakistanis no more represent the cause that Pakistan once stood for.

In fact, the monkeys today are insult to that cause. Not only to that, it is because of antics of these people abroad that Pakistanis are looked down upon. If you ask me, I stand in neutral ground on the internet and openly contest the morals and practices of Pakistanis in front of the world when I am one of them. It shows character for Pakistan, because if we don’t speak up against the sad activity that goes on here; if we don’t condemn, we are actually promoting. I’m not sure I want to be doing that.

As far as the argument about how people are victims of poverty and various circumstances which force them into doing things that are publicly unaccpetable, it’s not excuse. Most people in Pakistan are victims of poverty because they choose to beg instead of making an effort. There are plenty who make an effort; there are far more than plenty who don’t, and hence we see widespread poverty and are forced to feel sorry for them. But aren’t we believers of Islam? Shouldn’t we turn to God for help. Again, same argument; Muslims today are barely representing any of the many prinicples taught in Islam.

Let’s face it, the majority of the Pakistani population behaves in a manner insulting to Pakistan. Since the whole world is actually aware of that, because they can see factors like our economy, our literacy rate, etc., I think we will be a better defense for Pakistan by condoning such acts of shame rather than by keeping quiet and indirectly encouraging them.

But then again, I could be wrong. This is, after all, just my perspective.

Much of it, I’ll say, is well said. I’ll agree to much of it. I’m on your side of many experiences that you speak of including those related to avoiding citizens from our country of origin. But, there are far more hideous acts committed even in civilized/developed parts of our Blue Planet which are often ignored when individuals like us go on measuring our ownselves. There’s nothing wrong in denouncing what is wrong, rather that in itself is virtue. But everything said in public should be said after taking stock of all the realties on ground. Again, I have lot of experiences that you do speak of. I do not feel ashamed of talking and denouncing them, though again, there are many good people too. And when certain idiotic practices (and rather malpractices) committed by certain portion of society are labelled as character of the whole society, I do not see that as justice and right. And if this is done by civilized nations, then question of their sanity comes to my mind. But I’m sure, they by now and in future, do and will futher understand the truth better just like us. It is a learning process. People and societies are getting to know about each other and by its virtue and as a consequence, societies will amend preceptions and practices as they know and learn more about themselves and about others.

Good luck with your book, mate.

Absolutely. There is nothing I disagree with over there. But here’s what I’ve seen and what I’ve felt, wrong as I may be. In ‘our’ part of the world, maybe 10% of the people turn out to be genuine, and the majority 90% typically end up being crooks of some sort. In the ‘other’ part of the world, maybe only 20% are crooks, whereas you’ll find about 80% of the population to be genuinely nice.

That said, I certainly will not overlook the fact that the developed world is responsible for more heinous acts on this earth today than the the developing world is. But you see, here’s the difference: they do BIG things wrong, which may actually be worth it. We cheat on small things, things that are worth Rs. 10 or 99 cents, and you may say that arises out of poverty, but it doesn’t. I barely see an American cheating for five dollars. If you’re going to do the crime, make it worthwile. Rob a bank, and going to jail for $ 50 million is worth it. Getting your ass reemed by holding someone’s Rs. 5000/- for more than 30 days is not; it’s simply pathetic.

As far as the developed worlds crimes against humanity; well, we just have to deal with the fact that they’re incharge and they make the law. Right or wrong in this world is a very subjective interpretation since the objectivity of those two terms that the likes of Socrates and Plato put forward are unfortunately just remnants of the theory of moral practice. I had an Islamiat teacher in middle school who would say that ‘might was right’ in the world before Islam was brought upon the people. The truth is, it still is. Within Pakistan, that statement applies widespread, and money, political connections, and mafia make right. On the global scale, it’s all about the money and warfare, and guess who’s defining right there?

Enter the United States of America.

And what country are you in? I keep getting an European Union IP address.